(Araucaria) RES: Monk Apollo Speaks Out on Illegal Operation from Mount Athos

[Leonardo]

Boa noite a todos.
Também acho que há uma ingerência nesta questão de concessão de Licenças e
também acho que nestas horas, às favas a religião: farinha pouca, meu pirão
primeiro.

73 de PP1CZ - Leo.

-----Mensagem original-----
De: araucaria-bounces em araucariadx.com
[mailto:araucaria-bounces em araucariadx.com] Em nome de Fred Carvalho
Enviada em: terça-feira, 28 de julho de 2015 13:12
Para: Grupo Araucaria de Radioamadorismo
Assunto: Re: (Araucaria) Monk Apollo Speaks Out on Illegal Operation from
Mount Athos

Martins e Leo, a Salvação é que o Monk Apollo é bem ativo, mas claro
insuficiente para acalmar a demanda. Mas, no entendimento de todos é ele que
segura as permissões para outros operarem, criando uma  verdadeira "reserva
de mercado". Nada muito ... cristão... da parte dele!

Fred

2015-07-27 11:22 GMT-03:00 Martins Oliveira <martins_nunes em uol.com.br>:


	Kkkkk, se depender do Conselho dos Santos, a operação não vai
acontecer tão cedo. Quase um P5
	
	73, Martins - PY2HN///

	Enviado via iPhone
	

	Em 27/07/2015, às 10:46, Leonardo <pp1cz em terra.com.br> escreveu:
	
	

		FYI I translated what Monk Apollo wrote and here it is:
		
		
		It is known that many radio amateurs, many years ago, want
to come and operate from Mount Athos. The older hams know that I helped in
the past a radio amateur team from Thessaloniki Greece to come and operate
from Virgin Mary’s Garden. Most of you know also that the Mount Athos refuse
a license to everyone the last years. Maybe you have forgotten that this is
a result the way Baldur DJ6SI tried to fool the monks to operate illegally.
		
		Unfortunately instead the history guides us, we have seen
new tries to fool the monks the last time.
		
		Some time ago, some Latvian hams came in Mount Athos and
tried to operate without any license. They claimed that they had an oral
permission. Of course they had neither oral or written license and Mount
Athos went them out. But their try, even they had not the right documents,
was not good for Mount Athos reputation. Many hams because of his desire to
have a QSO, blamed Mount Athos for this.
		
		After a short time, a Greek radio amateur operated from
Mount Athos. I received many messages asking if he is legal or not. He is
claimed that he has a license from a monastery for training operation
without to have in mind the Greek law, which says:
		
		“in specific cases and when special security has taken, the
owner of the station with a valid license may, for educational purpose and
aiming to progress of amateur radio, to allow the use of his station to a
third person who is not radio amateur, under his responsibility, supervision
and instructions, for a short time, not bigger than 20 minutes. In such
cases he must sign as /T (training)”
		
		But his license is NOT valid because he has not the Holy
Council’s license as the Greek law says:
		
		“A special call to be issued for operation from Mount Athos,
it is necessary you have thw written permission of Holy Council”
		
		So we speak for another try to fool the Monks. The same
negative picture again.
		
		Finally this is what we want? We want to operate even we
fool the monks? Even we make something bad for Mount Athos? Do we feel ok if
we do something like this? And finally are these actions against ham radio
because all these make a far dream a future dxpedition?
		
		Mount Athos is a source of Light that illuminates all of us
and a Beacon of Orthodoxs through the Centuries.
		
		I asked the Holy Council if a license has been given and
they answered negatively. The Holy Council having in mind the illegal
operations of Baldur DJ6SI, the willing of Latvians who wanted to operate
without a license, the illegal operation of SV2/SV1RP/T or /A at 12 June
2015 and many received applications to operate from Mount Athos, sent a
decision (doc. Nr F.2/27A/1482/28-6-2015) to the 20 Monasteries of Mount
Athos to make all these clear. With this document, the Holy Community says
that if someone outside Mount Athos wants to operate, he needs a special
call and the written permission of Holy Council. Also is mentioned that all
the answers in relatively applications for a license until now were
negative. So that means all the operations until now are illegal.
		
		I want to ask everyone to behave more carefully. In our life
in general, it is better to try something without to offend others, or to
raise the values and institutions, trying to achieve our goal preserving the
law and ethics.
		
		Monk Apollo from Docheiariou Monastery.
		
		



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