(Araucaria) Monk Apollo Speaks Out on Illegal Operation from Mount Athos

[Fred Carvalho]

Pois é Xavier...

2015-07-28 16:52 GMT-03:00 PY7ZY <xavier.py7zy em gmail.com>:

> Fred
> Com toda essa celeuma, eu estava pensando exatamente isso.
> O homem não é muito próximo...do próximo....KKKKK
> 73
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> 2015-07-28 13:12 GMT-03:00 Fred Carvalho <fred.py2xb em gmail.com>:
>
>> Martins e Leo, a Salvação é que o Monk Apollo é bem ativo, mas claro
>> insuficiente para acalmar a demanda. Mas, no entendimento de todos é ele
>> que segura as permissões para outros operarem, criando uma  verdadeira
>> "reserva de mercado". Nada muito ... cristão... da parte dele!
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> 2015-07-27 11:22 GMT-03:00 Martins Oliveira <martins_nunes em uol.com.br>:
>>
>>> Kkkkk, se depender do Conselho dos Santos, a operação não vai acontecer
>>> tão cedo. Quase um P5
>>>
>>> 73, Martins - PY2HN///
>>>
>>> Enviado via iPhone
>>>
>>> Em 27/07/2015, às 10:46, Leonardo <pp1cz em terra.com.br> escreveu:
>>>
>>> FYI I translated what Monk Apollo wrote and here it is:
>>>
>>>
>>> It is known that many radio amateurs, many years ago, want to come and
>>> operate from Mount Athos. The older hams know that I helped in the past
>>> a radio amateur team from Thessaloniki Greece to come and operate from
>>> Virgin Mary’s Garden. Most of you know also that the Mount Athos refuse a
>>> license to everyone the last years. Maybe you have forgotten that this is a
>>> result the way Baldur DJ6SI tried to fool the monks to operate illegally.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately instead the history guides us, we have seen new tries to
>>> fool the monks the last time.
>>>
>>> Some time ago, some Latvian hams came in Mount Athos and tried to
>>> operate without any license. They claimed that they had an oral permission.
>>> Of course they had neither oral or written license and Mount Athos went
>>> them out. But their try, even they had not the right documents, was not
>>> good for Mount Athos reputation. Many hams because of his desire to have a
>>> QSO, blamed Mount Athos for this.
>>>
>>> After a short time, a Greek radio amateur operated from Mount Athos. I
>>> received many messages asking if he is legal or not. He is claimed that he
>>> has a license from a monastery for training operation without to have in
>>> mind the Greek law, which says:
>>>
>>> “in specific cases and when special security has taken, the owner of the
>>> station with a valid license may, for educational purpose and aiming to
>>> progress of amateur radio, to allow the use of his station to a third
>>> person who is not radio amateur, under his responsibility, supervision and
>>> instructions, for a short time, not bigger than 20 minutes. In such cases
>>> he must sign as /T (training)”
>>>
>>> But his license is NOT valid because he has not the Holy Council’s
>>> license as the Greek law says:
>>>
>>> “A special call to be issued for operation from Mount Athos, it is
>>> necessary you have thw written permission of Holy Council”
>>>
>>> So we speak for another try to fool the Monks. The same negative picture
>>> again.
>>>
>>> Finally this is what we want? We want to operate even we fool the monks?
>>> Even we make something bad for Mount Athos? Do we feel ok if we do
>>> something like this? And finally are these actions against ham radio
>>> because all these make a far dream a future dxpedition?
>>>
>>> Mount Athos is a source of Light that illuminates all of us and a Beacon
>>> of Orthodoxs through the Centuries.
>>>
>>> I asked the Holy Council if a license has been given and they answered
>>> negatively. The Holy Council having in mind the illegal operations of
>>> Baldur DJ6SI, the willing of Latvians who wanted to operate without a
>>> license, the illegal operation of SV2/SV1RP/T or /A at 12 June 2015 and
>>> many received applications to operate from Mount Athos, sent a decision
>>> (doc. Nr F.2/27A/1482/28-6-2015) to the 20 Monasteries of Mount Athos to
>>> make all these clear. With this document, the Holy Community says that if
>>> someone outside Mount Athos wants to operate, he needs a special call and
>>> the written permission of Holy Council. Also is mentioned that all the
>>> answers in relatively applications for a license until now were negative.
>>> So that means all the operations until now are illegal.
>>>
>>> I want to ask everyone to behave more carefully. In our life in general,
>>> it is better to try something without to offend others, or to raise the
>>> values and institutions, trying to achieve our goal preserving the law and
>>> ethics.
>>>
>>> Monk Apollo from Docheiariou Monastery.
>>>
>>>
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>>
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