(Araucaria) Monk Apollo Speaks Out on Illegal Operation from Mount Athos

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Fred
Com toda essa celeuma, eu estava pensando exatamente isso.
O homem não é muito próximo...do próximo....KKKKK
73



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2015-07-28 13:12 GMT-03:00 Fred Carvalho <fred.py2xb em gmail.com>:

> Martins e Leo, a Salvação é que o Monk Apollo é bem ativo, mas claro
> insuficiente para acalmar a demanda. Mas, no entendimento de todos é ele
> que segura as permissões para outros operarem, criando uma  verdadeira
> "reserva de mercado". Nada muito ... cristão... da parte dele!
>
> Fred
>
> 2015-07-27 11:22 GMT-03:00 Martins Oliveira <martins_nunes em uol.com.br>:
>
>> Kkkkk, se depender do Conselho dos Santos, a operação não vai acontecer
>> tão cedo. Quase um P5
>>
>> 73, Martins - PY2HN///
>>
>> Enviado via iPhone
>>
>> Em 27/07/2015, às 10:46, Leonardo <pp1cz em terra.com.br> escreveu:
>>
>> FYI I translated what Monk Apollo wrote and here it is:
>>
>>
>> It is known that many radio amateurs, many years ago, want to come and
>> operate from Mount Athos. The older hams know that I helped in the past
>> a radio amateur team from Thessaloniki Greece to come and operate from
>> Virgin Mary’s Garden. Most of you know also that the Mount Athos refuse a
>> license to everyone the last years. Maybe you have forgotten that this is a
>> result the way Baldur DJ6SI tried to fool the monks to operate illegally.
>>
>> Unfortunately instead the history guides us, we have seen new tries to
>> fool the monks the last time.
>>
>> Some time ago, some Latvian hams came in Mount Athos and tried to operate
>> without any license. They claimed that they had an oral permission. Of
>> course they had neither oral or written license and Mount Athos went them
>> out. But their try, even they had not the right documents, was not good for
>> Mount Athos reputation. Many hams because of his desire to have a QSO,
>> blamed Mount Athos for this.
>>
>> After a short time, a Greek radio amateur operated from Mount Athos. I
>> received many messages asking if he is legal or not. He is claimed that he
>> has a license from a monastery for training operation without to have in
>> mind the Greek law, which says:
>>
>> “in specific cases and when special security has taken, the owner of the
>> station with a valid license may, for educational purpose and aiming to
>> progress of amateur radio, to allow the use of his station to a third
>> person who is not radio amateur, under his responsibility, supervision and
>> instructions, for a short time, not bigger than 20 minutes. In such cases
>> he must sign as /T (training)”
>>
>> But his license is NOT valid because he has not the Holy Council’s
>> license as the Greek law says:
>>
>> “A special call to be issued for operation from Mount Athos, it is
>> necessary you have thw written permission of Holy Council”
>>
>> So we speak for another try to fool the Monks. The same negative picture
>> again.
>>
>> Finally this is what we want? We want to operate even we fool the monks?
>> Even we make something bad for Mount Athos? Do we feel ok if we do
>> something like this? And finally are these actions against ham radio
>> because all these make a far dream a future dxpedition?
>>
>> Mount Athos is a source of Light that illuminates all of us and a Beacon
>> of Orthodoxs through the Centuries.
>>
>> I asked the Holy Council if a license has been given and they answered
>> negatively. The Holy Council having in mind the illegal operations of
>> Baldur DJ6SI, the willing of Latvians who wanted to operate without a
>> license, the illegal operation of SV2/SV1RP/T or /A at 12 June 2015 and
>> many received applications to operate from Mount Athos, sent a decision
>> (doc. Nr F.2/27A/1482/28-6-2015) to the 20 Monasteries of Mount Athos to
>> make all these clear. With this document, the Holy Community says that if
>> someone outside Mount Athos wants to operate, he needs a special call and
>> the written permission of Holy Council. Also is mentioned that all the
>> answers in relatively applications for a license until now were negative.
>> So that means all the operations until now are illegal.
>>
>> I want to ask everyone to behave more carefully. In our life in general,
>> it is better to try something without to offend others, or to raise the
>> values and institutions, trying to achieve our goal preserving the law and
>> ethics.
>>
>> Monk Apollo from Docheiariou Monastery.
>>
>>
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