(Araucaria) RES: Insultos do Franco, TG9NX.

Domingo Julho 7 23:27:16 BRT 2013

Certamente Ed.
Este é um caso para se esquecer, mas vale à pena divulgar para que todos
saibam que ele é.
Como o Ciclo 24 não tem me proporcionado boas aberturas em 50 MHz., estou
tentando conseguir QSLs de QSOs antigos, e me deparo pela segunda vez com as
atitude indesejáveis do Franco.

Forte 73 de PP1CZ - Leo.

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De: araucaria-bounces em araucariadx.com
[mailto:araucaria-bounces em araucariadx.com] Em nome de py4was
Enviada em: domingo, 7 de julho de 2013 21:39
Para: Grupo Araucaria de Radioamadorismo
Assunto: Re: (Araucaria) Insultos do Franco, TG9NX.

Prezado Amigo

Léo - PP1CZ !

Imagino o quanto isso deve ter te aborrecido.

Mas lembre-se que o radioamadorismo é um hobby , portanto é algo que quem o
pratica , o faz por que gosta , pelas amizades que construímos , pelos
amigos que conquistamos pelo mundo afora.

Não se aborreça mais com esse assunto.

Se não teve a confirmação do QSL dele , daqui a pouco , vc com toda sua
capacidade , conseguirá um outro QSO e a confirmação deste.

Portanto , pare de se aborrecer meu amigo.

Aceite este conselho de um veterano.

Tenha uma ótima semana.

73 , Ed - PY4WAS

Website CWJF GROUP : http://www.cwjf.com.br

	2013/7/7 Leonardo <pp1cz em terra.com.br>

		Boa noite amigos.

		Vejam o último e-mail que troquei com o Franco.

		Desculpem-me remeter minha resposta também, mas quero que
hajam testemunhas de como ele escreve e como eu respondo.

		O melhor é ler de baixo para cima, para entender a
cronologia do problema.

		Grato.

		73 from PP1CZ - Leo.

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		De: Leonardo [mailto:pp1cz em terra.com.br] 
		Enviada em: quinta-feira, 4 de julho de 2013 22:30
		Para: 'Franco Capuano'
		Assunto: RES: RES: RES: QSO of 24 march 2000.

		Franco, watch your tongue, man.

		You have my authorization to use my e-mail to whatever you
want, I’m not worry about that.

		All I write is public, and I also QSP the same e-mail I sent
to you to a lot of friends and e-mailing forums around the world. Next step
will be to send it to the DX-Community.

		So, go ahead with this bad behavior. Franco, you are not
Amateur Radio, because you have not the Amateur Radio spirit.

		As you may know, I live in a democratic Country, and here we
have rights, and I have opinion and the right to express it. The mine
opinion about you, as amateur radio is the worst I ever had in 25 years as a
ham radio.

		I also live in a Country that do not have international
Bureau to send the QSLs, but I do it by myself, by my expenses, and I can
tell you it is not cheap here to send packets of QSLs outside Brazil.

		No matter how much QSLs I receive to me or to the operations
I did in PY0F, PY0T, IOTAs etc., I use to send it all back via to the
Bureaus around the world.

		The ones I receive direct, I back direct if there is return
postage. If there isn’t, back via the Bureau, but I like to be sure the
friend will receive mine one.

		I have LoTW.

		I operated from PY0F last January (and I will back there
next day 25 until 30 to the IOTA Contest) and the first thing I did when I
returned back home was to upload all the QSOs to LoTW as PY0F/PP1CZ, to give
a new one to a lot of friends in the world. 

		Let me tell you a history that should be good to you know:
In late 80’s, PY1MAG – Paulo, passed away, and he did a lot of QSOs from
PY0F and PY0T, in the 70’s and 80’s. As a lot of Ham Radio was still needing
his QSL, I drive over 1.500 kilometers to visit his family and take the
paper Logs. The Log are with me here, and the first QSOs was over 35 years
ago. I repeat: I still have the Logs available here, to PY0MAG and PP0MAG –
do you have any QSO with him in one of those callsings? You can ask me the
QSL, even via e-mail, I can send it to you, via the Bureau, that will always
be a pleasure, even to a person like you, be sure.

		You do not keep your Log of QSOs made over 5 years? It is
your right, and it is up to you, but in my opinion this is very bad to the
one who did a QSO with you and could only note that he needs your QSL when
he is trying to work a new Award. But may be it is too late, if he did the
QSO with you. It is a matter of respect, in my concept. 

		Why don’t you use LoTW? Is that so difficult to do? No. 

		Do you need a helping hand to made your LoTW? I know a lot
of good fellows in USA that would be happy to help you.

		I know why you are not in LoTW, and sure I know very well
persons like you, with this bad behavior.

		Franco I will not discuss this with you because as I can see
you are haven't a good personality. You wrote to me bad language and I
shouldn’t write back to you, but I’m doing that to let you know  my opinion,
despite the fact you will not care, but it is good to let you know anyway.
We give what we have.

		I hope you can change your mind and your behavior.

		PP1CZ.

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		De: Franco Capuano [mailto:tg9nx em hotmail.com] 
		Enviada em: quinta-feira, 4 de julho de 2013 01:55
		Para: Leonardo
		Assunto: RE: RES: RES: QSO of 24 march 2000.

		Your blackmailing and threats make no difference to me. In
fact, as you probably well know, blackmailing is a serious crime in most
places, so I think it was unwise to have left written evidence of the
same...
		I can't give you a QSL card for a QSO that I have no log to
back it up.
		My QSL information is very clear on QRZ.com : "We only keep
logs for five years".  Now just who the sh1t do you think you are that I
have to break my own rules because of you?  
		 After thirteen years I don't have a fresh memory of all the
details, but every time I needed to confirm one of those islands that you
people have I always waited for a DXpedition with American operators and QSL
managers, because, as you very well put it, using your words: "I don't trust
in the Brazilian Mail". So, how could you possibly have helped me? But like
I said, my memory is not so fresh after 13 years. 
		Now about your operating capabilities, thirteen years and
you haven't got another QSO from over here? Speaks very low of you,
incompetent piece of sh1t.  

________________________________

		From: pp1cz em terra.com.br
		To: tg9nx em hotmail.com
		Subject: RES: RES: QSO of 24 march 2000.
		Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 21:16:10 -0300

		Sure I remember Franco. And what about your memory, do you
remember why?

		I don’t think so.

		You refuse to send me this same QSL, to this same QSO,
because someone here in Brazil didn’t sent you a QSL of some Island to you.

		So let me ask you: what was my fault that you didn’t
received a QSL from a brazilian QSL manager? 

		Why don’t you asked my help, instead of deny me your QSL,
and you told me that you would only send me if (and only if) I achieve that
QSL to you.

		I was expecting you change a little in your character, but
as I can see, you are still the same, a lousy person.

		But be sure I will spread this your e-mail to everyone I
know, to the persons around the world know what kind of person you are. We
are responsible for our actions, and what you did is disgusting. 

		I’m so sad about that and to know that still exists persons
like you in our community.

		PP1CZ

________________________________

		De: Franco Capuano [mailto:tg9nx em hotmail.com] 
		Enviada em: quarta-feira, 3 de julho de 2013 18:28
		Para: Leonardo
		Assunto: RE: RES: QSO of 24 march 2000.

		I don't think your memory is working ok...   how is your
friend IK3NVN? That fellow refused to send me my J5 card from that island
because of You...    Memory working now? 

________________________________

		From: pp1cz em terra.com.br
		To: tg9nx em hotmail.com
		Subject: RES: QSO of 24 march 2000.
		Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 11:12:17 -0300

		I tried Franco, but I do not trust in the honesty of the
Brazilian Mail. May be they split th envelope and the U$ 2.00 inside on it.

		And that happens for several times with this one and a lot
of others.

		73 from PP1CZ - Leo.

________________________________

		De: Franco Capuano [mailto:tg9nx em hotmail.com] 
		Enviada em: quarta-feira, 3 de julho de 2013 08:02
		Para: Leonardo
		Assunto: RE: QSO of 24 march 2000.

		why you waited 13 years to ask for a card?

________________________________

		From: pp1cz em terra.com.br
		To: tg9nx em hotmail.com
		Subject: QSO of 24 march 2000.
		Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 21:22:11 -0300

		I read in qrz.com that you only keep the Log for 5 years.

		I still need Guatemala for 6 Meters Band, of a QSO made in
24 of March of 2000 at 01:00z.

		Do you still have the Log?

		If so, can you see if I’m in your Log, because I want to
apply it directly to you.

		Thank you in advance.

		73 from PP1CZ - Leo.

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