(Araucaria) Insultos do Franco, TG9NX.
py4was
ed-py4was em powerline.com.br
Domingo Julho 7 21:39:19 BRT 2013
Prezado Amigo
Léo - PP1CZ !
Imagino o quanto isso deve ter te aborrecido.
Mas lembre-se que o radioamadorismo é um hobby , portanto é algo que quem o pratica , o faz por que gosta , pelas amizades que construímos , pelos amigos que conquistamos pelo mundo afora.
Não se aborreça mais com esse assunto.
Se não teve a confirmação do QSL dele , daqui a pouco , vc com toda sua capacidade , conseguirá um outro QSO e a confirmação deste.
Portanto , pare de se aborrecer meu amigo.
Aceite este conselho de um veterano.
Tenha uma ótima semana.
73 , Ed - PY4WAS
Website CWJF GROUP : http://www.cwjf.com.br
2013/7/7 Leonardo <pp1cz em terra.com.br>
Boa noite amigos.
Vejam o último e-mail que troquei com o Franco.
Desculpem-me remeter minha resposta também, mas quero que hajam testemunhas de como ele escreve e como eu respondo.
O melhor é ler de baixo para cima, para entender a cronologia do problema.
Grato.
73 from PP1CZ - Leo.
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De: Leonardo [mailto:pp1cz em terra.com.br]
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 4 de julho de 2013 22:30
Para: 'Franco Capuano'
Assunto: RES: RES: RES: QSO of 24 march 2000.
Franco, watch your tongue, man.
You have my authorization to use my e-mail to whatever you want, I’m not worry about that.
All I write is public, and I also QSP the same e-mail I sent to you to a lot of friends and e-mailing forums around the world. Next step will be to send it to the DX-Community.
So, go ahead with this bad behavior. Franco, you are not Amateur Radio, because you have not the Amateur Radio spirit.
As you may know, I live in a democratic Country, and here we have rights, and I have opinion and the right to express it. The mine opinion about you, as amateur radio is the worst I ever had in 25 years as a ham radio.
I also live in a Country that do not have international Bureau to send the QSLs, but I do it by myself, by my expenses, and I can tell you it is not cheap here to send packets of QSLs outside Brazil.
No matter how much QSLs I receive to me or to the operations I did in PY0F, PY0T, IOTAs etc., I use to send it all back via to the Bureaus around the world.
The ones I receive direct, I back direct if there is return postage. If there isn’t, back via the Bureau, but I like to be sure the friend will receive mine one.
I have LoTW.
I operated from PY0F last January (and I will back there next day 25 until 30 to the IOTA Contest) and the first thing I did when I returned back home was to upload all the QSOs to LoTW as PY0F/PP1CZ, to give a new one to a lot of friends in the world.
Let me tell you a history that should be good to you know: In late 80’s, PY1MAG – Paulo, passed away, and he did a lot of QSOs from PY0F and PY0T, in the 70’s and 80’s. As a lot of Ham Radio was still needing his QSL, I drive over 1.500 kilometers to visit his family and take the paper Logs. The Log are with me here, and the first QSOs was over 35 years ago. I repeat: I still have the Logs available here, to PY0MAG and PP0MAG – do you have any QSO with him in one of those callsings? You can ask me the QSL, even via e-mail, I can send it to you, via the Bureau, that will always be a pleasure, even to a person like you, be sure.
You do not keep your Log of QSOs made over 5 years? It is your right, and it is up to you, but in my opinion this is very bad to the one who did a QSO with you and could only note that he needs your QSL when he is trying to work a new Award. But may be it is too late, if he did the QSO with you. It is a matter of respect, in my concept.
Why don’t you use LoTW? Is that so difficult to do? No.
Do you need a helping hand to made your LoTW? I know a lot of good fellows in USA that would be happy to help you.
I know why you are not in LoTW, and sure I know very well persons like you, with this bad behavior.
Franco I will not discuss this with you because as I can see you are haven't a good personality. You wrote to me bad language and I shouldn’t write back to you, but I’m doing that to let you know my opinion, despite the fact you will not care, but it is good to let you know anyway. We give what we have.
I hope you can change your mind and your behavior.
PP1CZ.
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De: Franco Capuano [mailto:tg9nx em hotmail.com]
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 4 de julho de 2013 01:55
Para: Leonardo
Assunto: RE: RES: RES: QSO of 24 march 2000.
Your blackmailing and threats make no difference to me. In fact, as you probably well know, blackmailing is a serious crime in most places, so I think it was unwise to have left written evidence of the same...
I can't give you a QSL card for a QSO that I have no log to back it up.
My QSL information is very clear on QRZ.com : "We only keep logs for five years". Now just who the sh1t do you think you are that I have to break my own rules because of you?
After thirteen years I don't have a fresh memory of all the details, but every time I needed to confirm one of those islands that you people have I always waited for a DXpedition with American operators and QSL managers, because, as you very well put it, using your words: "I don't trust in the Brazilian Mail". So, how could you possibly have helped me? But like I said, my memory is not so fresh after 13 years.
Now about your operating capabilities, thirteen years and you haven't got another QSO from over here? Speaks very low of you, incompetent piece of sh1t.
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From: pp1cz em terra.com.br
To: tg9nx em hotmail.com
Subject: RES: RES: QSO of 24 march 2000.
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 21:16:10 -0300
Sure I remember Franco. And what about your memory, do you remember why?
I don’t think so.
You refuse to send me this same QSL, to this same QSO, because someone here in Brazil didn’t sent you a QSL of some Island to you.
So let me ask you: what was my fault that you didn’t received a QSL from a brazilian QSL manager?
Why don’t you asked my help, instead of deny me your QSL, and you told me that you would only send me if (and only if) I achieve that QSL to you.
I was expecting you change a little in your character, but as I can see, you are still the same, a lousy person.
But be sure I will spread this your e-mail to everyone I know, to the persons around the world know what kind of person you are. We are responsible for our actions, and what you did is disgusting.
I’m so sad about that and to know that still exists persons like you in our community.
PP1CZ
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De: Franco Capuano [mailto:tg9nx em hotmail.com]
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 3 de julho de 2013 18:28
Para: Leonardo
Assunto: RE: RES: QSO of 24 march 2000.
I don't think your memory is working ok... how is your friend IK3NVN? That fellow refused to send me my J5 card from that island because of You... Memory working now?
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From: pp1cz em terra.com.br
To: tg9nx em hotmail.com
Subject: RES: QSO of 24 march 2000.
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 11:12:17 -0300
I tried Franco, but I do not trust in the honesty of the Brazilian Mail. May be they split th envelope and the U$ 2.00 inside on it.
And that happens for several times with this one and a lot of others.
73 from PP1CZ - Leo.
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De: Franco Capuano [mailto:tg9nx em hotmail.com]
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 3 de julho de 2013 08:02
Para: Leonardo
Assunto: RE: QSO of 24 march 2000.
why you waited 13 years to ask for a card?
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From: pp1cz em terra.com.br
To: tg9nx em hotmail.com
Subject: QSO of 24 march 2000.
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 21:22:11 -0300
I read in qrz.com that you only keep the Log for 5 years.
I still need Guatemala for 6 Meters Band, of a QSO made in 24 of March of 2000 at 01:00z.
Do you still have the Log?
If so, can you see if I’m in your Log, because I want to apply it directly to you.
Thank you in advance.
73 from PP1CZ - Leo.
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