(Araucaria) TO2FH - Agradecimento - Ataques ao Sistema de QSL

[Andre Berzotti]

Parabéns Alex PY2WAS, Ricardo PY2PT e Fernando PY4BZ e a todos aqueles
que colaboraram com a Dxpediton em Mayotte que foi um sucesso!!!

Great Job !!! Congratulations Team TO2FH !!!

73" André - PY5EW



2011/4/28 PY2WAS - Alex <py2was em gmail.com>:
> Prezados PP5BK e PY2ADR,
>
> Gostaria de agradecer particularmente a vocês e a todos aqueles que nos
> defenderam de alguns ataques feitos por outros radioamadores estrangeiros,
> pela cobrança mínima do QSL.
>
> O texto que acabei de inserir no DX World.Net expõe com clareza os meus
> pontos de vista sobre a questão, compartilhados com o Ricardo (PY2PT) e com
> o Fernando (PY4BZ).
>
> Eis o texto:
>
> ----------------------
>
> Dear colleagues,
> Firstly, TO2FH team (including me) wishes to thank all who have participated
> of the pile-ups.
> I will make some few comments, but I do not have the intention to go further
> with discussions here, after all, everyone has the right to say whatever he
> thinks of.
> I used to think as some colleagues have complained here, that is, QSL should
> be free of charge as a final courtesy of a QSO and as a choice of the other
> station to use bureau, even taking into consideration the longer time to
> receive it.
> Then, I started to do dx-peditions and found out how complex and expensive
> is to put in place these remote operations.
> I do not request previous donations of anyone, but I am sure that it would
> not be too much if a ham could colaborate with a minimum of US 2 dollars
> with the dx-pedition. If we consider the US 2 dollars for a QSL and
> excluding QSL and shipping costs, there will be some cents to be used to
> help to reduce costs of the dx-pedition.
> Do I love dx-peditions ? For sure ! But I also love to chase dx-peditions
> from my home, sitting in a comfortable leather chair, with a cold beverage
> and it will cost me the power energy only. Why should I continue with
> dx-peditions ? Why other ham colleagues should support thousands of dollars
> in dx-peditions ?
> It is absolutely a nonsense to say that I am on vacations. Vacations in
> Mayotte ? Vacations in Guyana ? There are pleasant places in both venues,
> but I would certainly prefer to spend my vacations in Hawaii or USA or
> France and so on.
> Just before the trip, I was queried by a relevant ham society about the
> Online QRS System only and it was requested me to open the accounting
> balance of the dx-pedition. I did it. At that time, our costs were reaching
> US 24k dollars and after the trip, our excedent baggage costed us an
> additional value of US 1.5k dollars. It is easy for a ham, who is in France,
> to say that his expenses were below. He had not to move from Brazil to
> France as the first step of his trip. He did not inform if he went alone or
> in a group as we did. Many factors may influence the values to raise or
> drop.
> Finally, I am presently the responsible one (LABRE SP’s Ham Radio Director)
> for the bureau of the Brazilian Association in Sao Paulo, one of the few
> active bureaux in Brazil, and only God knows how hard it has been to keep
> it, facing the finance obstacles to keep it alive. We had to set forth 360
> QSLs free of charge during a calendar year. From the next one to be sent on,
> it is charged in R$ 0.10. There is no charge for receiving QSLs. So, it is
> important to highlight that QSLs via bureau in dx-peditions causes
> additional costs for the dx-peditioners, as I am still under charges by the
> latest ones (8R1PY, PW2K, PW2TA and ZY0F).
> Therefore, I ask you to think of the following final assumptions:
> 1) Please, do not be so sharp in your comments if you have never tried a
> dx-pedition. Without dx-peditions, DX in ham radio will die. We will have to
> talk to USA, Russia, some countries in Europe and Japan only.
> 2) World is quite different. Economic reasons change from place to place.
> So, it is not fair to compare so different realities, without knowing them.
> 3) As mentioned here, the ham operator is really charged by a minimum of US
> 2 dollars, but he will save money with mail and with his printed QSL.
> Additionally, he will contribute to reduce a little bit our costs and permit
> us new dx-peditions in the future. The conscience and the finance health of
> each one will determine if it is possible to aid with more or less.
> 4) We are expecting to offset between 10% to 20% of our final expenses, but
> we are not sure if we will succeed, after considering the QSL printing and
> shipping costs. We do not wish hams for paying our entire costs at all.
> 5) I have no doubts that QSL is a courtesy, but nowadays it costs money and
> it is not cheap, when talking about the number of QSLs resulted from a
> dx-pedition. We will be discussing the possibility to include it at LOTW, so
> that, those colleagues who can not afford to pay US 2 dollars may have the
> credit of this dx-pedition.
> 6) Do dx-peditions to earn money would be the worst idea in the world. A
> business destined to bankruptcy in the first attempt. Once again, those who
> are skeptical, try it once and talk us later.
> After 6 entire days of dx-pedition, we reached around 11,300 QSOs and we
> expect to upload the log to Club Log. the lack of internet was really bad
> for our plans.
> Please, check also TO2FH at QRZ.COM, which has some pictures there.
> I finally end this long comment by saying that my purpose at ham radio is
> gathering friends. Bruno, Christophe and Pierre are new examples of good
> friends that will be in our lives forever. We also do not have words enough
> to thank F6ENO and DJ8NK for all their support and incentive words.
> I respect everyone’s opinion, notwithstanding how different they are from my
> ideas, provided that they are respectful as I respect anyone else.
> Thanks for your valuable and kind attention.
> 73,
> Alex
> PY2WAS
>
> --------------
>
> Só um louco pensaria em ganhar dinheiro com uma expedição, considerando a
> quantidade de despesas envolvidas. Ademais, mesmo o bureau atualmente tem um
> custo para ser utilizado.
>
> Finalmente, ter que ler coisas do tipo de que "nossas férias" estão sendo
> financiadas, é deprimente. Férias para Mayotte ? Como bem diz o nosso amigo
> Xavier, quem fala isso só pode ser aquele que nunca tentou fazer uma
> expedição para ter idéia do custo e do trabalho que dá.
>
> Um forte 73,
>
> Alex
>
> PY2WAS
>
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