(Araucaria) RES: ( Cantareira ) Fw: [RIO-DX-GROUP] ARRL DX CW Spotting Report by K1TTT

Fabio A Santos faugusto em terra.com.br
Sexta Fevereiro 26 14:35:36 BRT 2010


O David (K1TTT) é fera quando o assunte é cluster... E em outros assuntos também, hehehehe

Se o tempo deixar, devo estar final de semana que vem com ele.

 

Ele me convidou novamente para o ARRL Int. Contest, porém as tempestades de neve por aqui estão severas.

Neva a 2 dias seguidos, sem parar, em Nova York. Recorde histórico de acumulo de neve na cidade. Ontem eu nem fui trabalhar. Hoje eu vim, mas esta muito perigoso andar pelas ruas. Ontem um homem morreu na 5a. Avenida porque uma arvore não suportou o peso da neve e caiu.

 

De Nova York até a estação são 3 horas e meia de carro. Isso em condições normais. E para piorar, existe chance de neve novamente no domingo que vem...

 

O David esta querendo uma confirmação da minha participação, mas isso eu não posso dar. Vou continuar com o status "may be".

 

Se eu conseguir aparecer por lá, espero fazer muitos pontos com os PY.

 

73 a todos,

Fabio

AC2AC/PY2AAZ

 

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De: cantareiradx em yahoogrupos.com.br [mailto:cantareiradx em yahoogrupos.com.br] Em nome de Joe_PY2EJ
Enviada em: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:43 AM
Para: cantareiradx em yahoogrupos.com.br
Assunto: Re: ( Cantareira ) Fw: [RIO-DX-GROUP] ARRL DX CW Spotting Report by K1TTT

 

  

  

Ricardo,

 

O cara ta querendo ter um filho com voce, rs.....  Eu no falou mucho bien Portugueis.

 

Cara é o seguinte, não se preocupe, o K1TTT é fera, isso ai vai se tornar comum de agora em diante, ele consegue até saber qual o IP que se logou no cluster. O que ele fala é que pode ser que alguem colocou o indicativo falso no dxsummit, pois isso esta sendo uma fonte comum de reclamação. 

 

Isso pode estreitar mais o acesso aos clusters, pois qualquer um pode dizer que é voce e entrar com spots falsos. Pode acontecer o segunte, o camarada entrega um log como single operator low power e faz um score altissimo, os caras não sao bestas, sabem como esta a propagação para aquele local, comparam os spots vindos daquela região com a quantidade decontatos que foram feitos, e descobrem que o camarada fez MUITO mais multiplicadores, Pô que cara de sorte!, não o espertinho usou o cluster e fez assisted como indicativo de um outro MACANUDO, ai esse K1TTT que é fuduidão em informática e redes de computadores começou fazer essas estatisticas.

 

Não se preocupe, o seu caso não é muito grave, rs...

 

 

73 de PY2EJ

 

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From: RICK CAMPOS <mailto:py2hl em ig.com.br>  

To: cantareiradx@ <mailto:cantareiradx em yahoogrupos.com.br> yahoogrupos.com.br 

Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:04 AM

Subject: ( Cantareira ) Fw: [RIO-DX-GROUP] ARRL DX CW Spotting Report by K1TTT

 

  


 

 

 

alguem poderia me dizer porque meu nome aparece na lista mais abaixo...

 

ja li e reli,mas nao consegui entender,ou seja ali fala alguma coisa de enganar o mundo que eu nao entendi,sera que era porque no meio de um contest de cw e resolvi fazer fonia no sabado de manha quando nao tinha propagação pro eua e canada e eles acham isso como uma coisa que nao pode sei la nao entendi,o que sei é que apareceu meu indicativo e nao entendi alguem pode me ajudar. 

 

  

73 de py2hl

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De: Luc <mailto:py8azt em dxbrasil.net>  PY8AZT

Data: 24/2/2010 08:47:32

Para: dxbrasil em googlegrou <mailto:dxbrasil em googlegroups.com> ps.com;  RIO-DX-GROUP <mailto:RIO-DX-GROUP em yahoogrupos.com.br> 

Assunto: [RIO-DX-GROUP] ARRL DX CW Spotting Report by K1TTT

 

  

Apenas uma estação brasileira citada.

73, Luc
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From: K1TTT <K1TTT em arrl.net <mailto:K1TTT%40arrl.net> >
Date: 2010/2/23
Subject: [CQ-Contest] arrl dx cw spotting report
To: reflector cq-contest <CQ-Contest em contesti <mailto:CQ-Contest%40contesting.com> ng.com>

There were 44489 spots in my database from this weekend.  This database from
the cluster and the excel spreadsheet of the dxsummit spots will be
available about the same time as this report at
http://www.k1ttt. <http://www.k1ttt.net/logs/2010arrldxcw_spots.zip.> net/logs/2010arrldxcw_spots.zip.

Most spotted:

DX              Count
PJ2T            391
6Y1LZ           302
K3LR            252
KC1XX           245
KH6LC           237
W3LPL           229
EF8M            225
PJ4X            222
J38XX           218
K1TTT           207
CR3L            198
KM1W            194
TX4T            194
KP2M            188
CR2X            176
W2FU            175
VK9X/G6AY       167
NR4M            166
K5GO            155
ZM1A            153
ZF2AM           153
P40L            151

Busiest spotters:

Spotter count
K3LR-4  761
K6III           706
K8ND            459
YT2AAA  441
DJ1AA           433
N8AGU           424
K5RC            365
K3VA            328
W6KY            322
KT1B            313
VE9HF           299
DL6KVA  291
W3LPL-4 286
F5MUX           285
W4EE            283
WO1N            274
S52W            259
K1RV            251
RX3APM  217
UA6AA           213
W1TO            212
N8JE            200

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Cheerleader report:

What the columns mean:
Spotter = the spotting station
dx = the dx being spotted
spots = the number of spots the spotter made for the dx
total = the total number of spots the spotter made during the contest
pct = percentage of the total spots the spotter made for just that one dx
station.

spotter dx              Spots   Total   Pct
K8LEE           PJ2T            42      86      48
SP9BGL  SQ9LOM/P        32      53      60
XU7TZG  XU7ACY  32      43      74
K8ND            PJ2T            26      459     5
E21EJC  E21EJC  22      40      55
CT1CZT  CR5100AM        18      27      66
UA4FUW  UE4FZO  17      39      43
SP9BGL  SP9YFF/P        16      53      30
K8ND            6Y1LZ           16      459     3
N8BJQ           PJ2T            14      58      24
EA5AT           EF5AT           13      16      81
N4RV            PJ2T            13      49      26
IZ3EYZ  IR4X            12      38      31
CT2HHM  CT2GSN  12      14      85
K8ND            KH6LC           12      459     2
N4SF            KH6/AA4V        12      12      100
XU7TZG  XU7AFU  11      43      25
F5RAV           6V7T            11      12      91
K2FF            PI4TUE  11      25      44

----------------------------------------------------------

"Single Spotters" are stations who make only one dx spot in the whole
contest weekend.  It is obviously fairly unusual for a contest operator
who is active to make only one spot, many make 10's to 100's of spots
during the weekend.  It is common for DX'ers to make a single spot for
a rare dx station then turn off the radio, so lots of single spotters
for rare stations is common, but they also get lots of contest spots
from other stations.  The key here is the percentage of spots that are
from 'single spotters'.  A high percentage can be a sign of the use of
fake callsigns to spot yourself or a friend that you don't want to look
like you are cheerleading for... in any case, the use of fake callsigns
is an obvious sign of someone trying to deceive the world in one way or
another.

What the columns mean:
DX - the dx station being spotted
Total - the total spots for them in the weekend
All(%) - the total number of single spots and the percentage of the total
dxs(%) - the number of the total spots that came from dxsummit and the
percentage of the total they are.  These are broken out because it is
very easy for someone to put in fake callsigns on dxsummit and it has been
a common source of abuse of the system.

DX              Total   All(%)          DXS(%)
VK9X/G6AY       167     47(28%)         16(9%)
TX4T            194     23(11%)         8(4%)
JH3AIU  42      22(52%)         0(0%)
6V7T            98      18(18%)         7(7%)
IK6CWQ  26      17(65%)         2(7%)
J5UAP           67      16(23%)         5(7%)
5Z0H            56      15(26%)         5(8%)
TM7AAW  42      14(33%)         8(19%)
TL0A            59      13(22%)         5(8%)
8N5A            43      11(25%)         6(13%)
XR9JA           40      11(27%)         3(7%)
PY2HL           44      10(22%)         2(4%)
5W0OU           132     10(7%)          1(0%)
PJ2T            391     10(2%)          3(0%)
5N7M            75      10(13%)         3(4%)

Interesting stations in this list are JH3AIU and IK6CWQ.
IK6CWQ is interesting because he was on 40m ssb being
spotted by a bunch of different stations from node
EA4RH-5.  That node makes it even more interesting
because it is where a series of fake spots by K1TTT
for K1TTT were entered.

The JH3AIU spots were real interesting because they were
all entered on my node.  The calls were all stateside
callsigns but the addresses were all from japan:
219.114.175.170
219.114.172.143
211.014.115.160
219.114.178.219
219.114.169.094
Interestingly JH3AIU is a previous user of my node who
has logged in recently from ip's like:
219.114.175.070
which are likely in the same isp's dialup block.

DXSummit spot analysis
----------------------------------------------------------
Spotter freq    comment spottee ip
VE3DPL-@        7034    ARRL test       DL3VZL  91.42.222.60
K5DO-@  3543    test            DL3VZL  91.42.222.60
WB3JK-@ 3543    AARL            DL3VZL  91.42.222.60
VE3DG-@ 7037    arrl test       DL3VZL  91.42.254.33
K8UI-@  21014   ARRL TEST CQ    DL3VZL  91.42.254.33
VE3DPL-@        14013   test            DL3VZL  91.42.254.33

91.42.*.* is from Deutsche Telekom of course.
----------------------------------------------------------
Spotter freq            comment         spottee ip
SP7KKX-@        3573.8.0                                SO8R    89.174.25.64
SO8R-@  3510.8.0        tnx new multi   VA7CW   89.174.25.96
SP7KKX-@        3535            CQ  LP LP ARRL  SO8R    89.174.25.96
SP7KKX-@        3520            ARRL   LP   LP  SO8R    89.174.25.96

there is a whole series of spots, mostly for so8r by various sp stations.
Many of them have similarly badly formatted frequencies and similar
comments.  But this one group stands out becuase of the spots FOR so8r
and the spot BY so8r from the same ip as others and with the same bad
frequency format as some others.

----------------------------------------------------------
Spotter freq            comment spottee ip
LZ1KDP-@        14079.5.0       arrl dx LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
KB9HTF-@        14079.5.0       arrl dx LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
LZ3RZ-@ 14079.5.0       cq wYOMING      LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
5B4AGU-@        14079.5.0       CONTEST LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
NW9Y-@  14079.5.0       ARRL            LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
LZ3RY-@ 14079.5.0       CONTEST LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
KB9HTF-@        14079.5.0       ARRL            LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
KA9ZML-@        14063           ARRL            LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
KA9ZML-@        14063           ARRL            LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
LZ3RY-@ 14063           CONTEST LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
5B4AGU-@        14063           ARRL            LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
NW9Y-@  14107.5.0                       LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
KA9ZML-@        14107.5.0       ARRL            LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
5B4AGU-@        21005           cq dx           LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
NW9Y-@  4090                            LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
NW9Y-@  14090                           LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
KA9ZML-@        14090           contest LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
LZ3RY-@ 14090                           LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
KB9HTF-@        14070.5.0                       LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
KA9ZML-@        14046.5.0                       LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
NW9Y-@  14020.4.0                       LZ1MS   87.126.27.147
LZ1MS-@ 21010                           XU7AFU  87.126.27.147
LZ3RZ-@ 21025           CQ DX           LZ1MS   87.126.27.147

A series of spots for LZ1MS that includes a spot by LZ1MS.  Also many
spots by w9's who all used the same Bulgarian IP address along with some
Bulgraians and a 5b4 station.

----------------------------------------------------------
K7YUJ-@         21115   arrl            ZA1E    82.154.129.226
K7YUJ-@         21116.2.0       arrl dx 6W2BV   82.154.129.226
KJ4RF-@         21110.6.0       arrl dx EA9LP   82.154.129.226
W0UIL-@         7008                            J28O    82.154.154.145
KJ4RF-@         14091                           EA9LP   82.154.154.145
W6RTB-@         14121   arrl                    ZA1E    82.154.154.145
W0UIL-@         14125   arrl dx         EA9LP   82.154.154.145
W6RTB-@         21113                           C30UI   82.154.154.145
W0UIL-@         21114                           CN3D    82.154.154.145
K7UIP-@         21108   arrl                    6W2SJ   82.154.154.145
W2S-@                   21119   arrl test               C30UI
82.154.154.145
W7UYI-@         21117.6.0       arrl dx CQ9I    82.154.154.145
W6TRF-@         21121   arrl                    ZA1E    82.154.154.145
KJ4RF-@         21114.6.0       arrl            CN3D    82.154.154.145
CT7/LZ3ND-@             7053    go-go bud               AA3B
82.154.156.148
CT7/LZ1WR-@             7097    ARRL DX TEST    CT7/LZ3ND
82.154.156.148
K7UIP-@         14095   lp                      ZM3MK   82.154.156.148
W6RTB-@         14109                           ZM3MK   82.154.156.148
CT7/LZ1WR-@             14110   ARRL DX TEST    CT7/LZ3ND
82.154.156.148
CT7/LZ1WR-@             14126   ARRL DX TEST    CT7/LZ3ND
82.154.156.148
K7GBE-@         14135.2.0                       OY1C    82.154.156.148
CT7/LZ3ND-@             14014.4.0       go-go           K3CR
82.154.156.148
CT7/LZ1WR-@             14130   arrl                    CT7/LZ3ND
82.154.156.148
CT7/LZ1WR-@             21111   arrl                    CT7/LZ3ND
82.154.156.148
CT7/LZ3ND-@             21002.5.0       go-go           K3LR
82.154.156.148
CT7/LZ1WR-@             21089   ARRL DX TEST    CT7/LZ3ND
82.154.156.148
CT7/LZ1WR-@             21141   ARRL DX TEST    CT7/LZ3ND
82.154.156.148
W7UYI-@         21136                           SU1M    82.154.156.148
KG7HY-@         21126.1.0       arrl            TA3DV   82.154.156.148
W3EDL-@         21126   arrl dx         EA9LP   82.154.156.148
KG7HY-@         21116.2.0       arrl            CQ9I    82.154.158.83
K0PLX-@         21101.5.0arrl test      EA9H    82.154.158.83
KI8UHJ-@                21101           arrl            C30UI
82.154.158.83
W6TMX-@         21092.4.0       arrl            C30UI   82.154.158.83
K5GFH-@         21093   contest         C30UI   82.154.158.83
K5TRN-@         21082   arrl                    J28O    82.154.158.83
K7UIP-@         21080   arrl test               6W2SJ   82.154.158.83
CT7/LZ1WR-@             21044   arrl                    CT7/LZ3ND
82.154.158.83
CT7/LZ3ND-@             14037   ARRL USPEH!             LZ9W
82.154.158.83
CT7/LZ1WR-@             14068   arrl                    CT7/LZ3ND
82.154.158.83

This group confuses me, but maybe they just don't understand the system
well enough to abuse it properly.  All the IP's are from Portugual,
but obviously not all the stations are.  The only common factor seems
to be some spots FOR ct7/lz3nd by other ct7/lz calls with some
spots BY ct7/lz3nd mixed in.  But ALL the spots FOR ct7/LZ3ND are from
the other ct7/ calls... and the faked stateside calls were used to spot
other stations.

This is confusing because if I were trying to promote ct7/lz3nd in the
arrl contest I would want the most exposure in the states, but many
stateside users filter out spots FROM dx stations so those would have
been seen by less stations than the other fake spots for other dx.
----------------------------------------------------------

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt em arrl.net <mailto:k1ttt%40arrl.net> 
web: http://www.k1ttt. <http://www.k1ttt.net> net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc. <telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net> k1ttt.net

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