(Araucaria) [Fwd: arrl dx cw spotting report]
Luc, PY8AZT
py8azt em uirapuru.org
Quarta Fevereiro 20 00:16:29 BRT 2008
Luiz e demais,
Vamos dar menos importância ao fato do relatório ter nos citado. O que
aconteceu foi a quase ausência de trapaceiros convictos e quando o Dave
garimpou os dados, acabou levantando suspeita sobre estações inocentes.
Recebi 49 anúncios durante o ARRL Int DX CW 2008. Destes, menos de 10
foram feitos por brasileiros.
A comunidade contesteira internacional sabe muito bem diferenciar o joio
do trigo; Não com o que se preocupar.
--
73, Luc
ZY7C Team member
PT7AG (also PY8AZT, PX8C, ZZ8Z)
LABRE, ARRL, Uirapuru DX Club & Araucaria DX Group Member
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Luiz - PY4PW escreveu:
> Luc et all, boa tarde!
>
>
> Acho um pouco complicado esse negócio dessa estatística. Em nenhum lugar do regulamento do conteste diz que eu não poderia fazer mais de spot seu ou de qualquer outra estação. Eu o fiz, realmente, e não houve nenhuma intenção em burlar ou favorecer alguma estação de modo ilícito. Todos os spots partiram de minha máquina que fica conectada à internet, e o IP pode ser checado com todos os outros concursos que spotei e vai se chegar a uma única conclusão: o IP é o mesmo.
> Eu me senti constrangido e muito envergonhado por ser incluído numa lista que aponta irregularidades e trapaças num conteste, mesmo tendo agido de maneira lícita e honesta, e mais constangido ainda, por tê-lo envolvido ainda que involuntariamente. Eu repudio esse tipo de citação porque não sou desonesto e não faço trapaça.
> Todas as vezês que fiz spot de sua estação, foi após tê-lo chamado. Eu estava presente naquelas freqüências.
> Apenas acompanhei sua estação, que chegava muito forte, e fiz os spots, assim como o fiz para outras duas ou três estações. Desculpe-me se trouxe algum inconveniente para você, Luc, ou aos radioamadores brasileiros.
>
> 73 a todos,
>
> Luiz - PY4PW
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Luc, PY8AZT
> To: Lista Araucaria ; gdxg em yahoogrupos.com.br ; RIO-DX-GROUP em yahoogrupos.com.br ; cwgo em yahoogrupos.com.br
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:07 PM
> Subject: (Araucaria) [Fwd: arrl dx cw spotting report]
>
>
> Caros
>
> O Dave, K1TTT divulgou o relatório dos Spots do ARRL DX do ultimo fim-de-semana. Duas estações brasileiras citadas.
>
> Uma das análises que o Dave faz é verificar o percentual de spots feitos para uma única estação. Durante o contest, escutei o Luiz PY4PW me chamando pelo menos duas vezes. Nas duas vezes em que ele me chamou, eu estava no meio do pileup, e só pude dar um "PY4PW 73 es GL".
>
> Pois o Dave listou o Luiz e eu no relatório porque dos 8 spots que ele fez no ARRL, seis foram para mim (75%).
>
> Nada demais, certamente não foi intencional. Alias, a linha entre os competidores trapaceiros e sérios está cada vez mais tênue.
>
> 73,
> Luc PY8AZT
>
>
>
> -------- Mensagem original --------
>
>
> "Only" 36557 spots this weekend. Lack of 10m and 15m obviously slowed down
> the daytime spotting. The top spotting rate
>
> on Saturday didn't break 1000/hr, but did make it up to almost 1200/hr in
> the 15z hour Sunday.
>
> Most spotted stations:
> DX Count
> VP6DX 2856
> PJ2T 358
> 6Y1LZ 315
> J7DX 302
> PJ4O 281
> KP2M 232
> KH6LC 208
> T32OU 188
> PZ5WW 188
> K3LR 175
> HB0/N0MX 175
> W3LPL 174
> V31UZ 171
> 4U1UN 167
> KC1XX 167
> K1XM 163
>
> Busiest spotters:
> Spotter count
> K3LR-3 690
> W3LPL-4 571
> AA3B 523
> K8BB-3 416
> N2NS 400
> NQ4I 384
> K6III 349
> DK3DM 290
> WK5X 269
> W2CDO 267
> WB9DLC 253
> K5RC 247
> KC1XX 240
> K1AR 237
>
>
> ======================================================================
> Cheerleader report
>
> Note, I removed all the VP6DX cheerleaders, over half of the cheerleaders
> spotted only vp6dx over the weekend.
> I also removed the 105 spots that YV5ANF made for "YU8/YT8". And then I
> removed the volta rtty cheerleaders, and
>
> several special event stations... so relatively little interesting in the
> cheerleading this time.
>
> spotter dx spots total Pct
> EA8TT EA8ZS 7 7 100.00
> WW8DX PY1/NE8Z 6 6 100.00
> UX2FXX UT9FJ 6 6 100.00
> W7IAN KL7Z 13 14 92.86
> KP4CPD DD2D 13 14 92.86
> YU7WW YT5C 9 10 90.00
> Z36W Z35T 9 11 81.82
> PY4PW PT7AG 6 8 75.00
> DL7SI KC1XX 6 9 66.67
>
>
> ======================================================================
>
> Single spotter spots:
>
> DX Total All(%) DXSummit
> VP6DX 2856 553(19%) 167(5%)
> YU8/G3TXF 75 21(28%) 9(12%)
> 9X0W 65 17(26%) 8(12%)
> C56JC 44 15(34%) 10(22%)
> 9X0Z 69 15(21%) 3(4%)
> ET3JA 35 14(40%) 4(11%)
> 9X0X 73 14(19%) 4(5%)
> DU9RG 40 13(32%) 7(17%)
> YU8/OH2R 69 13(18%) 8(11%)
> FO/KH0PR 71 13(18%) 5(7%)
> YU8BH 49 12(24%) 7(14%)
> 6Y1LZ 315 11(3%) 2(0%)
> 4U1UN 167 9(5%) 3(1%)
> UT7L 41 9(21%) 2(4%)
> HH2FYD 31 8(25%) 1(3%)
> HB9FAP 65 8(12%) 2(3%)
> HB0/N0MX 175 8(4%) 2(1%)
> YT8AW 40 8(20%) 2(5%)
> TM4WRC 29 8(27%) 4(13%)
> T32OU 188 8(4%) 2(1%)
> PT2ZHA 27 7(25%) 6(22%)
> C56YK 24 7(29%) 5(20%)
>
> That has got to be the most boring single spotter report in a long time,
> maybe ever.
>
> ======================================================================
> So we start from scratch with the dxsummit ip addresses now... there is lots
> of noise in the data from this weekend due
>
> to the vp6dx expedition and the yu8 stuff in addition to other special
> events and the volta rtty thing. But still some
>
> possible self spotters seem to stand out.
>
>
> KD4POJ-@: 21032.9 PY5/OK5MM 216.221.96.202
> KD4POJ-@: 21037.4 VP5DF 216.221.96.202
> KD4POJ-@: 21028.7 HQ9R 216.221.96.202
> KD0CPI-@: 21030.7 KD4POJ ND IN TEST 216.221.96.202
> KD4POJ-@: 21031.5 KH6LC Lloyd TU FRM ND 216.221.96.202
> KD0CPI-@: 1813.2 KD4POJ ND CQ 216.221.96.202
> SWL-@: 1818 KD4POJ ND CQ TEST 216.221.96.202
> KD4JTJ-@: 3536.1 KD4POJ ND 216.221.96.202
> KD4POJ-@: 7050.2 ZM1A via ZL1AMO 216.221.96.202
> KD4POJ-@: 14052.4 H7/K9GY 216.221.96.202
> KD4POJ-@: 14051.6 MD0CCE IS MAN TO NODAK 216.221.96.202
> KO4YG-@: 14053.4 KD4POJ ND DX TEST 216.221.96.202
> SWL-@: 21027.4 KD4POJ ND DX TEST 216.221.96.202
> KD4POJ-@: 21039.2 T32OU 216.221.96.202
> SWL-@: 14054.3 KD4POJ ND DX TEST 216.221.96.202
>
> Do i even have to check the ip address??? he spots with his own call, then
> changes to SWL or some other call to spot himself. The funny part is i bet
> he doesn't know that SWL spots don't propagate onto the cluster network,
> they stay only on dxsummit.
>
> Just to be complete the ip comes back to:
> OrgName: SRT Communications, Inc.
> OrgID: SRTC
> Address: 3615 North Broadway
> City: Minot
> StateProv: ND
>
> ======================================================================
>
> K6FK-@: 3505 KH6LC 0p:Goran sm0drd 72.234.15.226
> K6FK-@: 28010 KH6LC Good op, ez to QSO 72.234.15.226
> K6FK-@: 7036 KH6LC Strong and EZ to QSO KW 72.234.15.226
> W6NB-@: 3543.1 KH6LC BIG signal from KH6 72.234.15.226
> W6NB-@: 3546.8 KH6LC Now here VY LOUD! 72.234.15.226
> K6SUY-@: 3513.3 KH6LC CQ from Hawaii, loud 72.234.15.226
> WB6ZPB-@: 14037 KH6LC CWing really friggin' loud
> 72.234.15.226
> WB6ZPB-@: 21034 KH6LC also here and building
> 72.234.15.226
> WB6ZPB-@: 14037 KH6LC CQing VY LOUD!
> 72.234.15.226
> WB6ZPB-@: 28003.9 KH6LC CQ CQ CQ CQ TEST
> 72.234.15.226
> K6FK-@: 28004.9 KH6LC CQing 72.234.15.226
> K6FK-@: 21039.4 KH6LC CQing with a KW 72.234.15.226
> K6FK-@: 14036.9 KH6LC NW HR, CQ TEST 72.234.15.226
> WB6ZPB-@: 14037.1 KH6LC moved here, running 72.234.15.226
> W6NB-@: 28017.5 KH6LC CQing, lonely 72.234.15.226
> W6NB-@: 21005.7 KH6LC CQing VY LOUD! 72.234.15.226
> K6SUY-@: 28007.7 KH6LC CQ test 72.234.15.226
>
> Don't you just love it when they brag about how loud they are??? The ip is
> a dead give away if you can't read through
>
> the comments and figure out that most contesters don't make lots of comments
> like that....
>
> OrgName: Hawaiian Telcom Services Company, Inc.
> OrgID: HAWAI-3
> Address: 1177 Bishop St.
> City: Honolulu
> StateProv: HI
>
> ======================================================================
>
> G3ABO-@: 7003.6 AJ1M 74.47.241.198
> DL3MJ-@: 7066.2 AJ1M test wv 74.47.241.198
> OL5P-@: 7077 AJ1M 74.47.241.198
> SN6Z-@: 3575 AJ1M 74.47.241.198
>
> Yeah, this is scraping the bottom of the barrel i guess... but it was so
> easy. the ip comes back to:
> OrgName: Frontier Communications of America, Inc.
> OrgID: FRTR
> Address: 180 South Clinton AVE
> City: Rochester
> StateProv: NY
>
>
> ======================================================================
>
> UR7GO-@: 14002.5 VP6DX 1st call up 25 77.239.190.121
> UR7GO-@: 14002.5 VP6DX 1st call up 25 77.239.190.121
> UR7GO-@: 14002.5 VP6DX 1st call up 25 77.239.190.121
> UR7GO-@: 14002.5 VP6DX 1st call up 25 77.239.190.121
> UW1GZ-@: 14059.9 4U1UN hear me but says only usa
> 77.239.190.121
> UW1GZ-@: 14050 UU4JMG GL ANDY 77.239.190.121
> K8ADF-@: 14036 UR7GO
> 77.239.190.121
> KA2PUT-@: 7035.5 UR7GO TEST
> 77.239.190.121
> UW1GZ-@: 3526.6 C6APG TNX!
> 77.239.190.121
> UW1GZ-@: 3557 UR7HCX go go my friend!:-)
> 77.239.190.121
> UW1GZ-@: 3501 RK3QS don't cry about it
> 77.239.190.121
>
> another easy one, spots with his own call, then changes it to stateside
> calls to spot himself... i'm not sure where
>
> uw1gz fits into it though. the ip comes back to:
> netname: AT-DIALIN-FIXED
> descr: Alkar Teleport
> descr: Kherson
> country: UA
> address: Dniepropetrovsk, Ukraine
>
> ======================================================================
>
> DL7FA-@: 21006.9 YO3FRI cq test 88.134.111.217
> GW0IRP-@: 7060.6 YO3FRI cq 88.134.111.217
> DL7FA-@: 7060.6 YO3FRI Contest ARRL 88.134.111.217
> K6IPM-@: 7060.6 YO3FRI test 88.134.111.217
> DK1PVA-@: 7060.6 YO3FRI Contest 88.134.111.217
> DL7FA-@: 7060.6 YO3FRI ARRL Contest 88.134.111.217
> GW0IRP-@: 7037 YO3FRI ARRL
> 88.134.111.217
> DK1PVA-@: 7036.9 YO3FRI ARRL 88.134.111.217
>
> nice and consistent with frequency and comments. and the ip is from:
>
> netname: KABEL-DEUTSCHLAND-CUSTOMER-SERVICES-8
> descr: Kabel Deutschland Breitband Customer 8
> country: DE
>
> so maybe a 'friend' trying to help out???
>
> ======================================================================
>
> DF6PB-@: 3559.9 DJ9VA 89.55.12.252
> DH1PQ-@: 3558.9 DJ9VA 89.55.12.252
> DM8TA-@: 3558.9 DJ9VA 89.55.12.252
> N7MYA-@: 3560.5 DJ9VA 89.55.12.252
> DF6PB-@: 3558.2 DJ9VA 89.55.43.225
> DH1PQ-@: 3558.2 DJ9VA 89.55.43.225
> N7MYA-@: 3558.2 DJ9VA 89.55.43.225
> DF6PB-@: 3558.2 DJ9VA 89.55.43.225
>
> this one does come back to germany at least, but mostly in country spotters
> except n7mya.
>
> descr: freenet Cityline GmbH
> Willstaetterstrasse 13
> 40549 Duesseldorf
> Germany
> country: DE
>
> ======================================================================
>
>
> raw data and report at: http://www.k1ttt.net/logs/2008arrldxcw_spots.zip
> if you want to look at some of the other ones that didn't make the report.
>
>
>
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt em arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
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> 73, Luc
> ZY7C Team member
> PT7AG (also PY8AZT, PX8C, ZZ8Z)
> LABRE, ARRL, Uirapuru DX Club & Araucaria DX Group Member
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