(Araucaria) QSL's ! Até quando ?

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Sexta Junho 15 10:34:27 BRT 2007 

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Xavier, PY7ZY

----- Original Message -----
From: "py2yp" <py2yp em py2yp.ws>
To: "Grupo Araucaria de Radioamadorismo" <araucaria em araucariadx.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: (Araucaria) QSL's ! Até quando ?


hummm.... não tinha pensado nisso. Vou querer sim.

A propósito, tem país demais. Acho que está na hora de eliminar alguns.

Talvez uma boa limpeza começasse por países sem qualquer significado:
1A0, 4U1ITU, 4U1UN, SV/A dentre outros. Alguma sugestão?

73 DX de PY2YP - Cesar

Luciano wrote:
> Alo CESAR: Caso a lista algum dia passe para 338 você não vai querer o
> "papel" não?
>
> 73 de Luciano  PT7WA
> ------------------------
>
> py2yp escreveu:
>> NO que me diz respeito, após a chegada do cartão de N8S só quero mais um
>> em papel: P5 confirmando um QSO em telegrafia.
>>
>> A partir daí qualquer QSO poderá ser confirmado via LOTW que não me fará
>> qualquer diferença.
>>
>> Um único QSL em papel é tudo o que preciso.
>>
>> 73 DX de PY2YP - Cesar
>>
>> Egon Boehm wrote:
>>
>>> tô com osseis.
>>> Nada como ter, como diria um #1, a manjuba no barbante.
>>> Os QSL's estão ficando cada vez mais bonitos e elaborados.
>>> Viva os cartões QSL.
>>> Egon - PY2BW
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Andre - PY5EW" <py5ew em sercomtel.com.br>
>>> To: "Grupo Araucaria de Radioamadorismo" <araucaria em araucariadx.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: (Araucaria) QSL's ! Até quando ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Olá Edson ótimo comentário amigo! Não tem nada mais prazeroso que abrir
>>> a sua caixa postal e encontrar um monte de QSL's....Abrir cada envelope
>>> e tentar puxar na memória o dia do contato...
>>>
>>> Forte 73"  e muitos DX's com muitos QSL's....
>>>
>>> André-PY5EW
>>> www.qsl.net/py5ew
>>>
>>>
>>> Edson escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Prezados Amigos !
>>>>
>>>> Acabei de ler , uma excelente narrativa do radioamador K5ZD , uma das
>>>> mais ATIVAS estações americanas em concursos internacionais ( ver no
>>>> final deste e-mail , um pedaço do artigo ).
>>>>
>>>> *O artigo completo ( muito bom , vale a pena ser lido ) , encontra-se
>>>> neste link :  *
>>>>
>>>> www.k5zd.com/articles/tenyearsqsls.html
>>>> <http://www.k5zd.com/articles/tenyearsqsls.html>
>>>>
>>>> Com dados estatísticos ( algo que me atrai muito ) , faz um balanço de
>>>> seus *QSO's / QSL's* no período de 1993 a 2003 e mostra dados
>>>> interessantes e uma *TRISTE *constatação.
>>>>
>>>> *A TROCA DE QSL's PODE ESTAR MORRENDO !*
>>>>
>>>> Me lembro , *que no início da década de 80 ( por volta de 83 / 84 )* ,
>>>> cheguei a fazer algo parecido , pois os números sempre me atraíram.
>>>>
>>>> E me lembro como se fosse hoje , que tinha uma *MÉDIA de recebimentos
>>>> de QSL's* que girava em tôrno de *70% em CW e menos de 50% em FONIA (
>>>> SSB - AM ).*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tinha países que chamavam muito a minha atenção pelo *altíssimo índice
>>>> de recebimento de QSL's ,* e pelo artigo , continuam ainda a ser os
>>>> melhores pagadores de QSL's , tais como o *JAPÃO ( disparado em
>>>> primeiro lugar )* , vindo a seguir a ( na época ) *ALEMANHA
>>>> OCIDENTAL.* Depois ( não me lembro mais a ordem ) vinham OH - EA - I -
>>>> OZ - SM - LA - VE e talvez mais algum outro que não me lembro agora.
>>>>
>>>> Tinham também os *PÉSSIMOS PAGADORES de QSL's* , que eram os Países do
>>>> antigo bloco chamado Comunista.
>>>>
>>>> Naquela época , receber QSL's da antiga *URRS ( UA ) , ROMÊNIA ( YO )
>>>> , POLÔNIA ( SP ) , HUNGRIA ( HA ) , antiga YUGOSLÁVIA ( YU ) e outros*
>>>> , era em média de cada 10 QSL's , no máximo 3 QSL's e olha lá.
>>>>
>>>> Hoje , *parece que eles melhoraram* seu índice de pagamento de QSL's .
>>>>
>>>> Os *USA ,* sempre mantiveram *uma média de 40% a 50%*. Pelo
>>>> levantamento do Randy , como pode-se perceber , parece que esse índice
>>>> *DESPENCOU *na década de 90.
>>>>
>>>> Tomei a liberdade de enviar este e-mail , por um fato simples , mas
>>>> *MARCANTE *na minha história , mas que me levou a tornar-se
>>>> radioamador em 1973.
>>>>
>>>> Foi olhando *os QSL's que o ODON - PP1RR ( antigo PY4AZM )* , recebia
>>>> e me mostrava *( era uma criança , com apenas 13 anos )* do mundo todo
>>>> , é que me apaixonei pelo radioamadorismo. Ficava impressionado como
>>>> ele conseguia falar com o Japão , Rússia , Austrália e outros países
>>>>  tão distantes e quase desconhecidos para mim na época ( rs..rs..).
>>>>
>>>> Guardo até hoje , em caixas de sapato , as centenas ( isso mesmo
>>>> , centenas ) de QSL's recebidos ao longo destes 35 anos como
radioamador.
>>>>
>>>> Tinha o hábito , *de passado 12 meses , enviar 2ª via do QSL* para
>>>> todos aqueles que ainda não tinha recebido. Aprendí isso com o Odon ,
>>>> que sempre foi um *EXÍMIO *pagador de QSL's.
>>>>
>>>> *TEMPOS BONS ,* que deveríamos novamente tentar colocar em prática.
>>>>
>>>> Penso , que são assuntos deste tipo , que tambem deveríamos tratar nos
>>>> *ENCONTROS e REUNIÕES *, pois é um hábito SALUTAR e que certamente ,
>>>> também levou muitos outros radioamadores a ingressarem no
radioamadorismo.
>>>>
>>>> Peço *DESCULPAS* aos membros dessa conceituada lista , mais foi algo
>>>> que me chamou atenção e me levou ao PASSADO.
>>>>
>>>> Acredito , *que se não fossem aqueles QSL's que o ODON ( atual PP1RR )
>>>> me mostrava* , eu não teria me interessado pelo radioamadorismo.
>>>>
>>>> *73's Ed - PY4WAS*
>>>> Presidente do CWJF
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
---
>>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>> K5ZD - 10 Years of Contests and QSLs
>>>>
>>>> Another thing I have always wondered about is how long does it take
>>>> before you have received all the cards you are going to get? The table
>>>> below shows the QSOs made and corresponding QSL receipts for each
>>>> calendar year.
>>>>
>>>> *Year*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *QSOs*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *QSLs*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *% Cfmd*
>>>>
>>>> 1993
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 9,870
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1,388
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 14.1%
>>>>
>>>> 1994
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 15,845
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2,407
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 15.2%
>>>>
>>>> 1995
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 22,518
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4,012
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 17.8%
>>>>
>>>> 1996
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 21,347
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3,279
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 15.4%
>>>>
>>>> 1997
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 21,846
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3,108
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 14.2%
>>>>
>>>> 1998
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 20,669
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3,024
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 14.6%
>>>>
>>>> 1999
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 20,529
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2,834
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 13.8%
>>>>
>>>> 2000
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 22,883
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2,901
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 12.7%
>>>>
>>>> 2001
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 26,906
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2,253
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 8.4%
>>>>
>>>> 2002
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 27,119
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 973
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3.6%
>>>>
>>>> 2003
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6,121
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 0.1%
>>>>
>>>> Total
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 215,653
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 26,184
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 12.1%
>>>>
>>>> The average QSL rate is steady around 14 to 15%. It drops in 2000 and
>>>> beyond because there are still incoming cards for this period that
>>>> have not been received yet. Does this constant represent an
>>>> approximation of the new participants in contesting each year?
>>>>
>>>> About 5000 to 8000 of the contacts each year were made by guest ops
>>>> and are included in the above. There are 4000 QSOs made with the YCCC
>>>> club call AJ1I in WPX CW contests that are not included.
>>>>
>>>> So where do these cards come from? What countries are the most
>>>> prolific QSLers? The answers, at least for my log, are below. These 33
>>>> countries represent over 87% of the total QSLs received.
>>>>
>>>> *Country*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *QSOs*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *QSLs*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *% Cfmd*
>>>>
>>>> EA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5238
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1852
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 35.4%
>>>>
>>>> JA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4852
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1630
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 33.6%
>>>>
>>>> ON
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2751
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 894
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 32.5%
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 11427
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3265
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 28.6%
>>>>
>>>> DL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 20493
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5668
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 27.7%
>>>>
>>>> HB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1663
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 354
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 21.3%
>>>>
>>>> PA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2665
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 540
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 20.3%
>>>>
>>>> S5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4115
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 719
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 17.5%
>>>>
>>>> LA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1380
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 229
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 16.6%
>>>>
>>>> OH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3585
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 593
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 16.5%
>>>>
>>>> CT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 824
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 127
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 15.4%
>>>>
>>>> F
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6606
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 995
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 15.1%
>>>>
>>>> HA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4285
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 639
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 14.9%
>>>>
>>>> OK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 8073
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1198
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 14.8%
>>>>
>>>> SP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6448
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 954
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 14.8%
>>>>
>>>> 9A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2310
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 334
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 14.5%
>>>>
>>>> PY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1200
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 157
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 13.1%
>>>>
>>>> SM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3248
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 378
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 11.6%
>>>>
>>>> UA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 8416
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 929
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 11.0%
>>>>
>>>> OM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2396
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 204
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 8.5%
>>>>
>>>> YU
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3586
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 302
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 8.4%
>>>>
>>>> UA9
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2431
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 163
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6.7%
>>>>
>>>> LU
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1941
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 128
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6.6%
>>>>
>>>> EI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 718
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 45
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6.3%
>>>>
>>>> YO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1369
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 75
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5.5%
>>>>
>>>> G
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 9661
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 514
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5.3%
>>>>
>>>> UR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6378
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 317
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5.0%
>>>>
>>>> LY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2076
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 93
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4.5%
>>>>
>>>> GM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1296
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 53
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4.1%
>>>>
>>>> LZ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1993
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 71
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3.6%
>>>>
>>>> VE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4415
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 154
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3.5%
>>>>
>>>> K
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 50633
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 437
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 0.9%
>>>>
>>>> Japan and Germany are expected, but Spain and Belgium were surprises.
>>>> I think Belgium is helped by the 100% contest QSLing of ON4UN under
>>>> all of his OT*T calls. Spain and Italy show the QSL rate that a
>>>> country with lots of new hams can generate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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